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vinci61
Senior Member
Chinese
- Jan 8, 2015
- #1
If I were to write a letter, when it comes to write something like best wishes, your sincerely, someone, it should be on the right end of the letter or on the left end of the letter?
My native language suggests it should be on the right end, but I see somebody puts it on the left end.
Which way would you prefer to be the more standard way?
Thank you in advance.
cyberpedant
Senior Member
North Adams, MA
English USA, Northeast, NYC
- Jan 8, 2015
- #2
In the days of handwriting and the mechanical typewriter, I was taught to put the complimentary close (e.g., "Yours truly,") and the signature a bit right of center.
This doesn't seem to be the universal standard in the present day of email, but at least some printed letters continue to use the "right of center" standard.
Sparky Malarky
Senior Member
Indiana
English - US
- Jan 8, 2015
- #3
This is not a language question. This is a style question, and the style has changed in recent years. Also, it varies depending on whether this is a "friendly" letter or a "business" letter.
This is outside the scope of this forum.
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vinci61
Senior Member
Chinese
- Jan 8, 2015
- #4
cyberpedant said:
In the days of handwriting and the mechanical typewriter, I was taught to put the complimentary close (e.g., "Yours truly,") and the signature a bit right of center.
This doesn't seem to be the universal standard in the present day of email, but at least some printed letters continue to use the "right of center" standard.
Thank you for your info.
Sparky Malarky said:
This is not a language question. This is a style question, and the style has changed in recent years. Also, it varies depending on whether this is a "friendly" letter or a "business" letter.
This is outside the scope of this forum.
What do you mean by friendly and business? Can you illustrate a bit more? Thanks. I thought as long as it is a question about English, I can ask it here. My bad.
Keith Bradford
Senior Member
Brittany, NW France
English (Midlands UK)
- Jan 8, 2015
- #5
I think this is well within the scope of the forum, no?
In Britain, when typewriters were used, people used to indent the first line of paragraphs by one tab (about 5 spaces). This meant that "Yours sincerely" and the signature were indented slightly - but
notaligned to the right.
Nowadays, the style in most British correspondence is to 'block left'. This means that all lines including the first one begin at the left of the page, and this includes letter endings. The thread you are reading is blocked left, and paragraphs are indicated by a double carriage return.
(Other countries have different habits; I know that the French place signatures at the centre of the page, even when everything else is blocked left.)
Sparky Malarky
Senior Member
Indiana
English - US
- Jan 8, 2015
- #6
Okay, I was afraid the moderators would object, but I gues not. My apologies, Vinci.
A "friendly" letter is informal, such as you would write to your friends or family. Of course, who writes letters anymore?
A "business" letter is more formal and is used to conduct business.
Different rules apply. For example the greeting in a friendly letter is followed by a comma, like so --
Dear Mary,
In a business letter, a colon is used, like so --
Dear Sir or Madam:
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Egmont
Senior Member
Massachusetts, U.S.
English - U.S.
- Jan 8, 2015
- #7
A traditional letter begins with your address and the date. There are at least two styles for those: starting at around the midpoint of the page and starting at the left margin. Whichever you choose, the ending should be lined up with it: starting at the midpoint of the page if that's where you started your return address, at the left margin if that's where your return address is. Do not put one of them in one place and the other one somewhere else.
Keith Bradford
Senior Member
Brittany, NW France
English (Midlands UK)
- Jan 8, 2015
- #8
Note that Egmont and Sparky are both describing
Americanpractice. Vinci61, you haven't told us whether you want to follow British or US standards...?
panjandrum
Senior Member
Belfast, Ireland
English-Ireland (top end)
- Jan 8, 2015
- #9
Formal letters that I have looked at have the closing at the left margin.
Formal letters that I have created have the closing somewhat indented, but still left of centre.
I don't believe I have ever seen a letter with the closing right-aligned. That would appear very strange to me.
It possible, find out what the house style is for the organisation you are writing for.
If you are writing as an individual to an organisation, try to find out what that organisation's house style is.
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fdb
Senior Member
Cambridge, UK
French (France)
- Jan 8, 2015
- #10
I think this change in style has to do with computers. On a typewriter it is easy just to push the tab key, but indenting is not quite so simple with the standard word-processing programs.
dadane
Senior Member
España
English-London
- Jan 8, 2015
- #11
cyberpedant said:
In the days of handwriting and the mechanical typewriter, I was taught to put the complimentary close (e.g., "Yours truly,") and the signature a bit right of center.
This doesn't seem to be the universal standard in the present day of email, but at least some printed letters continue to use the "right of center" standard.
The left-aligned but indented to just right of centre style is the way I was taught at school. Having said that, I can't recall actually seeing it or using it in formal correspondence (whether this says more about letter styles or my memory span is debatable). It is still used for hand-written closings though.
natkretep
Moderato con anima (English Only)
Singapore
English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese
- Jan 9, 2015
- #12
Vinci, I suggest you do a search under 'block style', 'semi block style' and 'modified block style'. There are several styles available for letters. Here's Wikipedia on business letters:
Business letters conform to generally one of six indentation formats: Standard, Open, Block, Semi-Block, Modified Block, and Modified Semi-Block. Put simply, "Semi-" means that the first lines of paragraphs are indented; "Modified" means that the sender's address, date, and closing are significantly indented.
The full block style has everything starting on the left margin with no indentation for any element.
The semi block or modified block has indentations for paragraphs, and the sender's address, date and the closing start from around the centre of the page.
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vinci61
Senior Member
Chinese
- Jan 9, 2015
- #13
Thank you guys very much
I learned a lot from all of you. As for Mr.Keith Bradford I think both BrE and AmE can do.
Because in Chinese, when we write letters, we put the closing to the right of the center, that's why I asked this question.
You guys told me it is all because of the way you are typing. So it should be on the left or on the center. Thank you guys.
I don't need to write letters anymore but I want to teach my students to write letters in English in the correct way.
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